Wednesday 16 April 2008

Bus Pass Time Bomb.

Monday. Two passengers, husband and wife board the bus on the Strand. He asks me can they use their passes to obtain concessionary travel on this bus. “Yes”, says I, but something made me add, “Provided they are the correct passes.” Two Welsh passes were presented. “No. Sorry. You can not use them in England.” Passengers get off the bus and walk away.
Today. Two more passengers, who could even have been the same passengers from Monday board the bus. He shows me the Welsh passes and asks for Paignton. I explain that Welsh passes cannot be used in England. He pays the fare, she says, as they walk down the bus, “That’s the 5th bus driver to tell you that. Now will you believe me?”

Right. Let me make something clear now. I know I said I would only mention Bus Passes in passing but what is seen by myself and other bus drivers as a little bit of a joke at the moment could be a gently ticking time bomb for places like Torquay. We rely heavily on visitors. Most of our summer visitors, not counting the foreign language students, are from other places in the UK. That includes Wales, Scotland and to a smaller extent Ireland. But these visitors cannot use their bus passes in England. Already over the last few days I have had to refuse passes from Wales, so far none from Scotland but later in the summer we do get a fairly large contingent down from north of the border, we even have Scottish Bank notes on display in the Pay In room at the depot so we know what they look like. But if they cannot use their passes here in England there could be a danger they will not make the trip to Torquay and other English resorts. Similarly English tourists will not venture over the Welsh or Scottish boarder for the same reason. The Euro is strong at the moment so people are thinking less of holidaying in Europe so we should benefit from more people in the UK staying in the UK for their holidays. Torquay, being the type of resort it is, attracts the more mature visitor and is a resort that, by it’s size and geography does tend to make bus trips an important part of the holiday. But the basic unfairness of people over 60 from England getting free bus rides with the Welsh and Scottish over sixties having to pay might make them reluctant to leave their own country for holidays in the future. Result, less visitors to Torquay.



Please Mr Brown, I know you read this blog, could you give this matter some thought and make the above pass and the Welsh passes valid anywhere in the UK. And quickly.

Just a mention, we have been without road works for the last week or so. So Devon County Council came up with a great idea. In the middle of the afternoon they closed a lane at Penn Inn. The left hand lane of 3. Chaos. Instantaneous Chaos.

7 comments:

Unknown said...

One day there will be an EU bus pass. You know it will happen.

cogidubnus said...

Before the government considers extending the scheme to Scottish, Welsh or any other passholders, it needs to ensure they're properly funded.

In my part of the world the reimbursement for a concessionary journey is actually half that applying in Scotand...and with the slower boarding times (therefore extra running times), greater volume of passengers (therefore extra journeys) and displacement of full farepaying passengers, OAP = huge lossmaker...

Central User said...

Don't forget though that, technically, those pretty Scottish bank notes are not legal tender.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/about/faqs.htm#15

Runs away to avoid riot.....

ScrumpyJack said...

Yes I totally agree with your comments Dave, I too had a couple from Wales get on and flash there passes at me. I informed them that unfortunately they couldn't travel here with their passes, at which they replied that the "driver brought us here on these passes". Anyway I explained in the nicest way possible and after some deliberation they paid the fare. I think the experience left them a little embarrassed as there was a big queue waiting to get on, because of the "roadwork syndrome". When they alighted at they asked where the Office was as they were going to try and claim a refund. I have to say that the couple in question didn't make a big fuss, thankfully, and appreciated the position of the drivers.

ScrumpyJack said...

Warning for all drivers. Latest scam with school passes, you know the one's, the one's with the yellow strip down the side saying Spring 2008 and valid until 21st April 2008. Well 3 youth's got on my bus, the first 2 showed their passes, both correct. The third showed his pass but it was the wrong way round, when I asked him to turn it round he promptly paid the fare as his pass turned out to be the Summer 2008 pass valid from the 22nd of April 2008. Also kids are getting on with their fingers covering the outer strip to hide the colour on the hope you don't read the date. I know the last comment is an old trick and happens with the foreign students as well when there passes run out.

Anonymous said...

i am a bus helper on the first bus service 808 and kids alsso pass there ticketout the window

Anonymous said...

A bus company who accepts Scottish notes?! Most the times I've tried to use them it's "What the hell is that??". The best fun comes with £1 notes...

Actually, whilst not technically legal tender, anybody who refuses them could be in deep water. They are an acceptable form of payment - if you go to the bank, they will happily credit them to your account.